Podolyak on negotiations: Russia wants to be a newsmaker. We are working out the legal formats.

Podolyak on negotiations: Russia wants to be a newsmaker. We are working out the legal formats.

Podolyak on negotiations: Russia wants to be a newsmaker. We are working out the legal formats.

Mykhail Podolyak, adviser to the head of the Office of the President, stated that Russia uses primitive techniques regarding the negotiations between Ukraine and Russia on stopping the war. In particular, Russian officials who have nothing to do with the process make comments about the negotiations.

Mykhail Podolyak said this in an interview with the publication "Present Time."

"Unfortunately, the Russian Federation very often uses primitive technologies - in this case, the technology when outside high-ranking officials who have nothing to do with the very process of discussion, but for some reason want necessarily to be newsmakers on this process, come out and in public space give some strange comments, thus significantly aggravating both the negotiation process itself and its course, and imposing a certain imprint on the public perception," Podolyak said.

According to him, some Russian officials are trying not only to abandon the issues not discussed regarding the war, but also to discredit the very idea of negotiations.

"These people are 90 percent high-ranking Russian officials. They don't really understand what negotiations are all about. They imagined it in a somewhat infantile light and thought that they were on some kind of unusual mission, trying to throw out non-discussed issues and discredit the very idea of negotiations. But all that is, so to say, in the past. Now all sides behave themselves as correctly as possible, including the public space," he added.

Mykhail Podolyak, adviser to the head of the presidential office, also told Kommersant that the fourth round of negotiations between Ukraine and Russia will take place after the "legal formats" have been worked out.

"Just now the mutual reciprocal already legal formats will be worked out, a meeting will be scheduled - the fourth round of negotiations. It could be tomorrow, the day after tomorrow. Going out further and just having conversations is probably no longer necessary. We have discussed all the issues; now we are trying to pack these issues into some legal formats," he said.

Podolyak also thinks that Russia's rhetoric in the negotiations has changed a lot in the last few days. But it may take some more time before Russia realizes what kind of situation it is in.

According to him, the sides are approaching a compromise.

"We have all the proposals that somehow protect these interests, take Ukraine out of harm's way in terms of not repeating similar situations, take Ukraine into compensatory stories in the right sense. And I emphasize once again: the Russian side has a much more adequate view of the situation," - said the adviser to the head of the UOC.

He stressed that it will take some time for the Russian side to fully understand the situation in which it is Russia, and not Ukraine, that has fallen into.